Got the Perpetuem. Now what?
IronMike
Northern VirginiaCharter Member
OK, got the big swim coming up next month (END-Wet). So I bought a packet of Perpetuem to try. (1 serving of orange-vanilla, 69grams.)
Background: My longest swim to date (Swim the Suck), I drank water in the form of Crystal Light, and for nutrition ate some Gu's. I didn't bonk or anything, in fact, felt good enough to really push it the last 40-or so minutes.
Discussion: This past weekend I found a place to do OW training. This weekend will be busy, but I'd like to try out this drink mix there. Unfortunately, I'll only have an hour to swim, due to family commitments. So, here's my ideas for how to try out this stuff.
1) Mix the packet in 16-28 oz of water (as per directions for "One-Hour Bottle"). Keep the bottle cold in the van and drink it upon finishing my swim;
2) As above, but drink it before I swim;
3) Half and half;
Well, that's all I can think of, and I have no way of bringing the drink with me.
Am I missing any other ideas? Any advice? FYI, the lake is pretty safe, in case I get sick. I can pretty much stand up at any point, I just don't want to. (The silty bottom is disgusting feeling.)
Background: My longest swim to date (Swim the Suck), I drank water in the form of Crystal Light, and for nutrition ate some Gu's. I didn't bonk or anything, in fact, felt good enough to really push it the last 40-or so minutes.
Discussion: This past weekend I found a place to do OW training. This weekend will be busy, but I'd like to try out this drink mix there. Unfortunately, I'll only have an hour to swim, due to family commitments. So, here's my ideas for how to try out this stuff.
1) Mix the packet in 16-28 oz of water (as per directions for "One-Hour Bottle"). Keep the bottle cold in the van and drink it upon finishing my swim;
2) As above, but drink it before I swim;
3) Half and half;
Well, that's all I can think of, and I have no way of bringing the drink with me.
Am I missing any other ideas? Any advice? FYI, the lake is pretty safe, in case I get sick. I can pretty much stand up at any point, I just don't want to. (The silty bottom is disgusting feeling.)
We're all just carbon, water, starlight, oxygen and dreams
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These will fit in your suit:
http://www.amazon.com/Platypus-SoftBottle-with-Push-Pull-Cap/dp/B008RIBHS6/ref=pd_sim_sg_5
...anything worth doing is worth overdoing.
I was the Hammer distributer for 7 years in Switzerland. I know their products extensively. It is not ideal to use as a pre drink- but there is no one size fits all in matters of nutrition. Try it out and see what happens.
It is best used after 1-2 hours of excercise. Key is not to take in any other form of nutrition an hour before you begin drinking perpetuem. The complex carbs clash with simple sugars you may find in gue, so if you are taking gel, use the same brand so you do not get to feeling ill. So do not take gels, bars or solids before you start drinkning Perpetuem. I like the chewables and I nibble on those druing long swims and drink water. Seems to be all I need but I have not done the super long stuff yet. The container proves to be water proof. You can even stick it in your cap. You need to also drink water when you drink perpeteuem, it may make you thirsty. Let me know how it works out.
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I'll let you know how it goes.
We're all just carbon, water, starlight, oxygen and dreams
Sisu: a Finnish term meaning strength of will, determination, perseverance, and acting rationally in the face of adversity.
We're all just carbon, water, starlight, oxygen and dreams
I will give you one off the record tip which is hard to believe but some very hard core ultra athletes I sponsored mixed it with Flax oil and one went on to be the world champion of the triple IM and double IM. It gave him flatulence but it worked well otherwise. I am going to try this out myself on a 5 hour swim. I do not recommend this at this stage. Feeds have to be trained and your body has to get used to this kind of fuel. In fact I would not switch your fuels now at all if I were you. I must say my experience has been endurance athletes but not endurance swimmers, so this is new territory, but I can really recommend the solids. But you have to sip some water too. Any time you have a question please feel free to ask. Good Luck!
Sisu: a Finnish term meaning strength of will, determination, perseverance, and acting rationally in the face of adversity.
We're all just carbon, water, starlight, oxygen and dreams
Molly Nance, Lincoln, Nebraska
http://notdrowningswimming.com - open water adventures of a very ordinary swimmer
Thanks all!
We're all just carbon, water, starlight, oxygen and dreams
For me myself I am having issues with burping in cold water. It's like my esophagus contracts. I take a feed, go back down and then I have the need to burp but I find it difficult. If you have any suggestions or experience I would be glad.
Sisu: a Finnish term meaning strength of will, determination, perseverance, and acting rationally in the face of adversity.
Thanks for all the advice!
We're all just carbon, water, starlight, oxygen and dreams
But my last swim, I took a banana other other mixed fruit and nuts and juices, blended into a smoothie and drank about 3/4 litre during a 3 hour swim. It tasted great and all natural.
What I am missing out on maybe the feeling of renewed energy that a feed should give you. For me i dont get any feelings other than looking forward to the taste and the short rest. I don't get a noticeable feeling of a new batch of fresh energy getting into my ever tiring body.
I find a similar thing in marathon running. It's not like I'm suddenly fresh as a flower after a Gu and some Gatorade. But it does keep me from bonking and I'll settle for that.
Jon
I took a couple Gu's during the 10 miles, but otherwise it was just water-based non-calorie things, like Crystal Light. I knew I needed liquid. I felt great, not sure if that was good training and/or the Gu's, but I had enough umph to push it the last 45 minutes after my kayaker (at the 4:00 feed) pointed the tiny red finish buoy out to me. He said he had to really paddle to keep up with me at the end there!
We're all just carbon, water, starlight, oxygen and dreams
Haydn, I think your shake sounds yummy!
http://www.hammernutrition.com/knowledge/the-top-10-the-biggest-mistakes-endurance-athletes-make.1273.html?sect=essential-knowledge-section
Please note that I am not trying to push this stuff. I have cut all ties with the company, but I still use their products.
Sisu: a Finnish term meaning strength of will, determination, perseverance, and acting rationally in the face of adversity.